Mine is Polly Billington who I must say is an excellent and hard working representative for her constituency. A total of £2,997 from 2 entries:- Yachad and Parliamentary Renewable & Sustainable Energy Group (PRASEG) Secretariat for the APPG for Renewable & Sustainable Energy - both simply for visits outside the UK. This is typical of her commitment - she can't be faulted.

Mine is Dan Aldridge Labour whose earned £8.5 k of which £5.5k is visits to Taiwan.

Ed Davey achieved the almost impossible feat of making Boris Johnson look statesmanlike during the last General Election campaign. 😂🤣😂. What a pillock! (not my first choice of epithet, but guidelines and all that...)

My MP, Jonathan Brash, is unusual - he earns nothing other than his parliamentary salary.

Or Kier Starmer? Was he a pauper then 🤣. Locally my MP is a Lib Dem, don't care what she earns, but she's brilliant. I'd never vote for Ed Davey in a general election though. Democracy has gone now anyway.. I'm just hoping that by the time Labour give the vote to 16 year olds, they'll have seen sense 😅

Anyone checkout Rishi Sunak?

Yes, ours (Julian Lewis) is on £699 declared - can’t begrudge him that, when he does such a lot for his constituents. I do wish he would use email, though, not insist on letters.

I'm pleased looking at our MP, he's hardly earned anything above his salary.

GJD, because we perform market research through our Survey Draw and politics is a popular market research topic, there is no rule against political discussion.

Our Forum Guidelines Etiquette says:

"It’s okay to disagree with other PMP-ers, in fact we encourage debate, just keep the dialogue positive."

In Germany if there's a suitable job anywhere near you have to apply to it, dole is paid monthly into banks,, & there are many spot checks.

In UK you sign fortnightly, & can't go out of UK on holiday when claiming dole.

In Rep of Ireland you may go worldwide on holiday & collect dole on return, sign & collect cash at a certain time weekly at local labour exchanges or police stns.

Little Owl - fish and chips now needs to be paid for over several months. 🙂

GJD - not so. The site itself is apolitical but Politics is an accepted subject for debate within the usual restrictions of courtesy, tolerance, etc.

I'm reminded of when some crooked politician thought that the unemployed should be forced to work for their dole money.

If the job exists it should pay the going rate.

I find this "buy now pay later" for days out with the kids amusing. You can walk in the woods, go to a park or a beach and take sandwiches and a flask or lemonade for next to nowt. I know public transport is a problem and it is expensive, but we used to have bus trips to the coast when I was young. We only needed money for fish & chips and ice-cream.

Well said ANN, totally agree with you.

There are jobs out there for those that want them, but so many youngsters these days have seen their parents live on the dole very nicely and want the same. DWP used to say things like TV, computers, nights out, etc were luxuries, and although the internet is pretty much required now many other things are luxuries which if you don't have the money you shouldn't have. That is what work is for, followed by saving. People were being asked on the News, would you use buy now pay later for days out for kids, as they're now talking about paying by Klarna, many said yes. Why??? We were brought up to save and not buy on hire purchase. If you didn't have the money you did without. It's a great incentive to work but people don't believe in it now. They want everything now, on a plate.

I thought that this site was non-political.

Chris, I wrote to the Chancellor recently and suggested that they bring back the proper jobs (libraries, leisure centres, community centres, etc) lost when Cameron and Osborne decided that everything should be run by volunteers or charities. No doubt they thought it was a good idea at the time, but in reality they are paying the same money out in benefits to people who would otherwise have secure jobs with a pension. There also used to be council bungalows with warden houses attached where they had community areas downstairs and the wardens had a home in a flat above. The kind of people who volunteer to run libraries, etc., have all had their pensions stuffed so it was a flawed idea in the first place. I also suggested they give some kind of incentives to employ people on 2-year or 4-year contracts. If you know you have a secure job you can make plans. Instead of collecting litter why don't they crack down on the idiots who drop it in the first place. Years ago, we used to have good YTS schemes - what happened to those.

Criminals haven’t yet realised that, from the exact moment that they commit a crime, their facts are fixed and frozen in time. Crime solving, however, progresses - 40 years ago there was no DNA, 100 years ago there was no fingerprinting. You can’t go back and change what you have done once a new process is found, eg wiping away fingerprints when fingerprinting was found, bleaching surfaces to remove DNA or wishing you had worn a protective tyvek suit.

The death penalty never worked and never will work. Extensive studies have all shown it had no impact on crime rates and just meant that innocent people died. Increasing the certainty of punishment (i.e. getting better at catching crooks) is the only thing that works as a deterrent, not the severity of the punishment itself.

Update: I've just read that all five lads were suspects in several thefts and burglaries and other anti social behaviour, and each was wearing a mask when the bodies were recovered. Well, there was talk on here recently about bringing back the death penalty. I'm guessing a number of people in their town will sleep easier now knowing they won't have to put up with all the trouble they caused. It's really sad they had to involve another family but at least it's the last time they'll cause anyone any more trouble. The death penalty does work.

I wasn't aware why it had happened, only that a car had been driven the wrong way. I'm all for people killing themselves whether through bad driving, drugs or whatever as long as they don't take innocent people with them. I've no thought for the families of those same ones, as they're generally the ones who should have brought them up better. It's like the young kids going out stabbing each other. I just watched a program where an innocent young man had been killed and hadn't been carrying a weapon, but it was later shown he had earlier run through a shopping centre with a machete chasing one of the lads that days later got him back. I say carry on, the less idiots there are the better, just keep innocent people out of it.

@AJR - young people don't actually understand what death is. Partly because many of them have never been exposed to it in the way that we were (many of us had lost a close relative or friend by that age), partly because of an assumption that 'it only happens to other people,' and, I fear, partly because of video games in which, if you are 'killed,' there is a convenient 'Resume' button that lets you carry on.

But, above all this, is this mad obsession with gaining 'likes' on social (???) media because that is how youth culture (sic) values people and that's why young people will do the most stupid things if it will gain another few followers,

The Darwin Awards really should be sponsored by social media firms.

I heard this tragic story and wondered how they came to be driving the wrong way - can't believe people can be so stupid - their poor parents are the ones who will suffer. The people who post these challenges should be jailed.

The Social Media Algorithms should send anyone who looks at these things to a site showing the death and destruction caused by such stupidity.

I read this yesterday and I’m still trying to work out why anyone would do this.

Even worse is the car they hit was a family heading to the airport for their holiday. Horrible.

Sorry about these click bait Google ads. Unfortunately, we don't make the Google ads and the only filters they have are to stop pornographic or gambling ads. I'm glad that nobody in this thread has fallen for it.

I hope that nobody clicks on them.

They're click bait, many don't say what they're for, & very rarely will tell you the price . Dunno why some even bother to advertise, ignore them.

Yes same here but just wondered what they were

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Yes, I 've seen it a few times but just ignored it.

ESC - The adds are not selected by PMP, they have no control over them, so as Mick says, please ignore them.

Yes, I have had. No idea what it about. Just scrolled past do don't know if there was an option to close.

Haven't seen it (yet) but as it's a Google ad just ignore it, or if it has a blue X top right, click it to remove. If it has 3 dots in that place use that, give a reason and that will remove it .... maybe for a while.